Re: Dancing on Ice - General Videos

**Akos Kirsch** Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:54 am

next time try to focus Pano :p

**paparizikos** Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:59 am

i had the same problem. And I wanted to to do what Kostopoulos did at 11.41 on that video affraid

**Akos Kirsch** Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:01 am

**Ruben** Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:20 am

Derek wrote:
Ruben wrote:
paparizikos wrote:

I'm sorry but I can't look at her face...

Don't worry Ruben. Many people had the same problem last night!

I guess Tv's and gossip magazines will comment "them" in Greece. big grin

**Derek** Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:38 am

Ruben wrote:
Derek wrote:
Ruben wrote:
paparizikos wrote:

I'm sorry but I can't look at her face...

Don't worry Ruben. Many people had the same problem last night!

I guess Tv's and gossip magazines will comment "them" in Greece.

Her cleavage is all over the Greek websites and Greek TV, today. Trust me Ruben! lol!

**Labros!** Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:42 pm

**paparizikos** Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:08 pm

**Stathis** Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:35 am

www.gossip-tv.gr

**Derek** Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:26 am

Right after the end of the show last night - backstage:

**alene** Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:37 am

Although she doesn't like being called goddess, she's a goddess! lol!

**Akos Kirsch** Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:39 am

haha... I think this had to be the best episode of the show probably. smile

**Stathis** Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:03 am

Akos Kirsch wrote:haha... I think this had to be the best episode of the show probably.

Exactly Akos

**Stathis** Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:37 am

Look at 00:16

source: zappit.gr

**alene** Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:03 am

What is she wearing high heels or slippers? Or both? hahaha
Thanks Stathi smile

**María_Spain** Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:07 am

Have you noticed? She also has a blanket to cover her legs under the table. Look at 0:45

**alene** Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:12 am

mariagq wrote:Have you noticed? She also has a blanket to cover her legs under the table. Look at 0:45

I didn't notice it! lol!

hahahahaha rofl

It's funny

**Derek** Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:54 pm

OMG she is hilarious! I LOVE HER! rofl

**paparizikos** Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:38 pm

**Derek** Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:24 am

Elena's remark and C. Pappas's reaction:

Christina Pappa reacts backstage:

Proini Meleti about the "conflict":

Made in Star about the "conflict":

and http://www.star.gr/life_style/118712/

Star news about the "conflict":

**Akos Kirsch** Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:23 pm

what did she say?
thanks for the videos btw
I mean C. Pappa

**Ruben** Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:07 pm

Sorry but what happened on DOI? Which conflict?

**TheLightinoursoul** Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:38 pm

As i could understand on the forum in the news section, C. Pappa told something like she had drunk a bit of vodka before the show (i guess it's not true) and Helena answered that is not the best moment to talk about alcohol on TV (cause they are children watching tv) and Pappas answered something like in nightclubs where helena sings, there are young people drinking without control. Something like that i read on the post of "News" section, someone correct me if i'm wrong ;) thx

**Samuel** Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:44 pm

Derek wrote:
- At some points towards the end of the show Christina Pappa (one of the contestants) jokingly said that she just drank a glass of vodka backstage because Kostopoulos gave her a 3. Elena interrupted her and said that she wants to point out that it's alright if you want to have a drink but you shouldn't talk about it openly and make children who are tuned on TV think it's alright to drink alcohol and going ice skating.
C. Pappa said she is right but according to some sources during a commercial break she headed to the jury and asked Elena why she talked like that against her. She told Elena that she has raised her son on her own plus Elena she sings in nightclubs where young people are allowed (?) to consume big amounts of alcohol without no control.
Don't know if any of that is true. Just what http://www.yupi.gr/gossip/c36605/Xristina_Pappa.html reports.

**Akos Kirsch** Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:48 pm

what i wonder is what did she say really in those videos.
Cause if she really became angry at Elena athough she had good intentions, then - I might be mean when I say this - but I hope she will be the one who will say "goodbye" to the show next time big grin

**Derek** Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:30 am

Here's their dialogue translated:

- Christina: I'm shaking a bit. I just drank a (glass of) vodka since I was just given a 3 by Mr. Kostopoulos and Mr. Kostalas (laughing). I have gotten...
- Elena: Can I say something? I want to point out something. If you want a drink, have it but don't say it out loud...
- Christina: (interrupting) You are right, alright.
- Elena: ...so that kids who are tuned in won't believe it's so easy to have a drink and then wear their figure skates (to go ice-skating).
- Christina: You are totally right.
- Elena: I'm sorry to say this.
- Jenny Balatsinou: Elena is politically correct.
- Christina: I have become a bad role model now. I better go home.
- Elena: No. Look this (show) is also meant to be entertaining but just not this particularly...to the kids.
- Christina: I always tell the kids because I'm a mother above all Elena so...
- Elena: I know you are a mother but (I say this) just because it's a family show.
- Christina: It is a family show and all the shows are family shows but anyway it was just a sip...

On the backstage video Christina Pappa was very upset. She said that she is a 42 year old woman and a mother to a 27 year old man and she knows about kids. She said her comment was only a joke and it was said after midnight (@ 00.15) and that thoughtful parents put their children to sleep @ 22.30. Furthermore she said it was a very silly thing to be said and unfair. She was saddened by Elena's comment and said it was only a bad moment and Elena even asked her if she wants her to apologize on air but she doesn't want that (they probably discussed about it backstage). Furthermore she said that @ bouzoukia nightclubs young people are not offered tea but alcohol (though I wonder if she knows that only adults are allowed alcohol drinks in those nightclubs even if that law is not always honored by nightclub owners).

As for the channel reports the day after, on Proini Meleti most panel members agreed with Elena's notice and they pointed out Elena is very sensitive with kids plus she may have experience with alcoholics in her environment that's why she probably made that remark but they also mentioned Christina is a good mother and didn't have any bad intentions, etc, etc..
However on Made in Star most of them were supportive of Christina Pappa's reaction and they found it justifiable plus they said she has a son whereas Elena doesn't and they thought Elena overreacted.
Christina Pappa went on air and thanked the panel members for taking this stance on the topic because sometimes people are influenced by the fact that a big star has said something(she said Elena is a real star) so they might take his/her side even if it's not always right towards the other side. The panel members said they are sure Elena didn't have bad intentions with her remark either (Christina agreed) and the discussion went on reproducing the same comments she made the night before (just in a more peaceful way) but at the end she said if Elena had said it to her in a more polite way she would have apologized about her vodka drink comment. They all agreed it's a case closed by now.

**Akos Kirsch** Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:36 am

if it's solved then it's good.

**Ruben** Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:50 am

Elena was a bit hard with her, isn't? I mean, if it was said after midnight I can't see the problem with children protected timetable. So I guess Elena was just sensitive. I can't understand what our Elena said in that video but she really seems angry. But I'm sure she point that with her best intention.

**Akos Kirsch** Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:00 am

I don't think she was hard. Just said what she thought. She had good intentions Ruben.

**Derek** Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:11 am

Ruben wrote:Elena was a bit hard with her, isn't? I mean, if it was said after midnight I can't see the problem with children protected timetable. So I guess Elena was just sensitive. I can't understand what our Elena said in that video but she really seems angry. But I'm sure she point that with her best intention.

I'm sure she had good intentions, we all know she is a wonderful person. She wasn't really angry but she looked very determined. Like she really had to say it.
The truth is some kids watch TV even after midnight (like Eleonora Meleti said too) and Christina Pappa's comment about the vodka drink was totally needless and unnecessary because such comments can influence kids. Anyway it's solved now.

**Tedy** Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:38 am

Helena's remark is correct, but having in mind hours (after 24:00) .... could pass without this note.

Thanks Derek for translation Keep Paparizouing!

**Derek** Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:14 pm

She really liked her Pyli Axiou dresses. Regarding her laiko programme dress she said it fits Elena perfectly because she is a woman with curves and she needs to support them!
About her DOI looks she says she reminds her of Dita Von Teese because she strikes her as the perfect female. A mediterranean woman, with curves, very feminine, without any hang-ups and she thinks she transmits this to both women and men.
She thinks Elena is juicy and her weight is attractive and a woman is beautiful and gorgeous as long as she feels good about her weight.

She says nothing new. She just explains herself once again and blah blah...

**alene** Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:25 pm

Thanks for the explanation of the videos. Keep Paparizouing!

I agree (well, I agree in general, lol but this specially) when she says she's

A mediterranean woman, with curves, very feminine, without any hang-ups and she thinks she transmits this to both women and men.

**paparizikos** Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:36 am

5th LIVE

**Derek** Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:03 am

Last night after the end of DOI live show which resulted to Pamela's elimination, some of her relatives/fans/friends reacted severely because they were highly disappointed by the result and reportedly started shouting against and accusing the jury members as they thought the result was fixed. At that point Elena said it's a shame that such things are being said and that's when Pamela's aunt reacted and called Elena a "sell-out". Pinelopi Anastasopoulou's (one of the contestants) parents came in the way and supported Elena whereas Elena herself became really upset and according to some reports she started shouting "you haven't seen me being angry", though according to another source she was very upset but responded to them politely.
Once it all ended Elena reportedly left the studio very upset whereas Pamela's relatives who headed to the exit where "chased" by the reporters and were asked what happened, what their feelings are, why they were against Elena, etc..
They were much calmer then and said they have nothing against Elena personally and called the show a "sell out", not her personally. They thought the show as an entity is fixed and they have nothing against someone specifically. They added it was unfair for their daughter to leave the show so early as she was the clearly the best of all the contestants and just complained about the whole production and lack of meritocracy.

When Pamela was asked about all that happened after the end of the show, she said she doesn't like all the swearing and the shouting she heard as she's a low-profile person ad she pointed out it wasn't her parents who reacted so severely but some other people and she only felt disappointed by the jury's decision yet she's proud of her performance and for her presence in the show.

You can imagine how many reports about this incident came the day after. It was big news. Some of the other contestants confirmed the incident and that Elena was very offended and upset by the allegations against her and the jury.

Videos from the incident:

Pamela's parents and aunt(?) talking:

Pamela talking:

Details about the incident: http://www.zappit.gr/default.php?pname=Article&cat_id=8&art_id=10612

TV reports the day after:

Same report, different length and lower quality:

**Akos Kirsch** Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:06 am

I so hate this!!
dislike

Poor Elena.

**Derek** Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:11 am

For some reason ever since she got involved with TV, she's always "part" of such conficts though she obviously doesn't want it. I wonder if this show will do her any good. First it was the incident with Christoforou, then with Pappa, then last night Dantis's comments possibly directed to her and the the incident with Pamela's relatives/friends. When will it all end? frustrated

**Akos Kirsch** Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:45 am

Yeah.... I just hope she is calm now and don't care about this stupid thing anymore!

**Stathis** Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:50 am

That's why i didn't want her from the beggining to participate in this kind of shows or anything related to TV

**Derek** Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:04 am

Stathis wrote:That's why i didn't want her from the beggining to participate in this kind of shows or anything related to TV

Sooner or later it will make it to the top-10. Especially once the radios start to play it. Wink

**alene** Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:06 pm

omg, there's so much drama in this show since it started...

Thanks Derek for all the videos and infos Wink

**TheLightinoursoul** Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:59 pm

I hope that this season of DOI will end soon and Helena will back to the music scene, TV programs are surrounded by problems and arguments between famous people and that's bad for her...

**Akos Kirsch** Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:30 pm

Indeed. At first I thought this will be different and enjoyed it a lot but since some people always have issues about her and insult her it changed. The 4th show is still on my computer but I didn't watch it yet for example. These bad things always comes in my mind and makes me a bit angry. lol!

Plus why the hell they have to find her as a target all the time? Why not the others from the jury or the fans who vote for their fav. artists etc. Why always Elena is the one to be messed with?

I hope she won't be in the next season at all and if she goes in tv it will be only interviews and invitations as a guest to other shows.

**Samuel** Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:40 pm

TheLightinoursoul wrote:I hope that this season of DOI will end soon and Helena will back to the music scene, TV programs are surrounded by problems and arguments between famous people and that's bad for her...

It is sad that they must do that. Why do they need to talk like that, in public?

**Derek** Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:06 pm

If we are honest Pamela (the singer who was eliminated) handled it very well. It's her relatives/friends who overreacted. But it's true all this overexposure gets Elena in the middle of many "conflicts". I hope there won't be more of these because Elena has been known for being a perfect example of a pop artist who isn't attracting negative public attention so she better not be associated with such TV feuds. Keep Paparizouing!

**Akos Kirsch** Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:24 pm

In Pamela's place I would make a statement in public and force those people to apologise for what they said about Elena.

**Derek** Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:30 pm

Akos Kirsch wrote:In Pamela's place I would make a statement in public and force those people to apologise for what they said about Elena.

Akos I think you are too harsh. First of all the incident happened backstage after the end of the show so TV viewers have only heard or read reports about it. It's not like we heard public allegations against Elena. Plus let me add that it was quite unfair that Pamela left the show (she was truly the best ice skater even if she had past experience), so she and her relatives/friends are naturally disappointed and sad (though that doesn't justify their actions and behavior).

**Akos Kirsch** Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:36 pm

that's right. It doesn't justify it. look... it's a show. A game. People voted and they picked her and Shaya to stay face to face in the end. And the jury made a decision. That's it. No need for such things. Especially against Elena. I'm not too harsh but I find this also unfair.

**Derek** Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:47 pm

Akos Kirsch wrote:that's right. It doesn't justify it. look... it's a show. A game. People voted and they picked her and Shaya to stay face to face in the end. And the jury made a decision. That's it. No need for such things. Especially against Elena. I'm not too harsh but I find this also unfair.

I agree!

**TheLightinoursoul** Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:18 pm

Hey... What do you think about that?? O.O, Will she preform?? I guess cause they made this advert only talking about Helena...

**Miss KA** Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:22 am

Ruben wrote:Elena was a bit hard with her, isn't? I mean, if it was said after midnight I can't see the problem with children protected timetable. So I guess Elena was just sensitive. I can't understand what our Elena said in that video but she really seems angry. But I'm sure she point that with her best intention.

Derek wrote:For some reason ever since she got involved with TV, she's always "part" of such conficts though she obviously doesn't want it. I wonder if this show will do her any good. First it was the incident with Christoforou, then with Pappa, then last night Dantis's comments possibly directed to her and the the incident with Pamela's relatives/friends. When will it all end?

well the papa/dantis thing was her own fault. she could really have said the same thing in a friendly way - especially as...

1. ...she admitted in the public to have done a breast augmentation - is this a better role model for young girls? ("if you weanna have a drink then get it secretly...")
2. ... she exposed her breasts in the 2nd show for DOI in a way which was already beyond the border of modesty ("it's a family show, imagine all the kids watching" - she wore that dress before midnight). the dress was close to a shooting dress for playboy and you wouldn't sell such magazine to a kid. and you don't want your daughter to wear something like this.

to be honest, she was not the person to have the right to say something like this. at first I preferred not to comment on it, but now as everyone starts worrying about the show doing harm to her,...

The HUGE difference between Helena's thinking and acting is really getting on my nerves.

added: she also claims being a role model to support normal/overweighted woman. but then she allows that the magazines edit her photos close to someone anorexic, without making her boobs smaller. The message of this pictures is: if necessary, have a diet to be thin, but to make your boobs still big by operation so you could cover a porn magazine.

I know akos and derek will be on the ceiling when reading this, but think about it before replying. I'm not saying this is what Helena thinks and believes is right, but as I said before: there is a huge difference between her thinking and acting.

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